10/27/2009 Regular Meeting PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE
410E OCTOBER 27, 2009 REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES NOV 1 9 2009
CALL TO ORDER
CHAIR SIROFCHUCK called to order the October 27, 2009 Parks & Recreation meeting at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Committee members present were: Mike Sirofchuck, Pam Foreman, Hans Tschersich, Patrick Saltonstall,
Andy Schroeder, Rick Lindholm, and Sandra West. Ex Officio members present were: Dave Kaplan, and
Brent Watkins. Excused was Jeff Huntley.
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHROEDER MOVED TO EXCUSE COMMITTEE MEMBER HUNTLEY.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
VICE CHAIR FOREMAN MOVED to approve the agenda.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
COMMITTEE MEMBERS TSCHERSICH and WEST requested typos and a clarification be corrected.
COMMITTEE MEMBER SALTONSTALL MOVED to approve the October 13, 2009 Parks & Recreation
minutes as amended.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
AUDIENCE COMMENTS AND APPEARANCE REQUESTS
Susan Payne urges the Coast Guard to set up a range and encourage the Coast Guard members to use it.
She also said, according to Paul Fussey, any misdemeanor has to be observed by a trooper, and suggested
video camera surveillance that can be used as trooper viewing of these incidents. Payne also stated there
is a lot of shooting in Anton Larsen including duck hunters shooting from moving skiffs which also
occurs near houses.
Dave King stated shooting ducks from a moving boat is illegal and it can be reported to the Fish &
Wildlife Service at 486 -2600 during the week and he will get the phone number for weekends.
OLD BUSINESS
A) Trails Plan
Cassidy stated we were given an extra month to get the trails GPS'ed and an option is that they hire
someone to perform that work.
During discussion it was the consensus to have someone else GPS the trails. WEST informed the
committee that due to the recent rains the trails have changed tremendously.
TSCHERSICH provided kayaking, hiking, and now mountain biking trails guides for staff to copy and
send to Alta.
B) Chiniak Tree Thinning
Cassidy gave a brief staff report on the contract process, and stated even though the size is small and
there is no public hearing requirement Winters is still interested in any public comments. Winters'
phone number and email address was provided.
During discussion Foreman expressed that the committee should officially let Winters know of our
concerns and why. Watkins expressed concern because people access this area for subsistence use of
wood due to being one of the last places where you can cut wood legally on the road system.
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Cassidy said he will write Winters an email to talk about: public lands surrounded by private land; value
in having it remain public; precedent issue; personal use of firewood, why commercial; habitat; ask for a
public hearing; and invite him to a meeting.
C) Shooting on the Road System
CHAIR SIROFCHUCK stated there was a story on KMXT regarding the shooting issue and he thought
it would be a good idea to review the specific actions or solutions.
Cassidy told the committee to email him with places that need the "Shooting Not Recommended Here"
signs.
During discussion it was the consensus that when they begin talking about trailhead signage to include
shooting, and a public education program through PSA's and newspaper ads about reporting
irresponsible shooting. Cassidy stated the recent flooding has washed out a lot of the Salonie Creek Rifle
Range. FOREMAN will follow up with Glamann and WEST will follow up with the Coast Guard
regarding the solutions. Cassidy will ask the troopers if they have canned PSA's. TSCHERSICH
expressed concern with the soft wording on the signs. Possible language includes: No shooting; shooting
is dangerous; no backstop, shoot elsewhere; find a responsible place to shoot; no shooting due to
recreational activities in the area; shooting is dangerous here, watch out; hikers present; hiking area, no
shooting; recreational area, no shooting; danger, bullets may ricochet; shooting here is a danger to others;
for KISA, shooting range information and listing their website.
NEW BUSINESS
COMMUNICATIONS
A) November 18, 2009 Planning & Zoning Agenda
Cassidy gave a brief report on the Planning & Zoning agenda.
REPORTS
Meeting schedule:
• November 10, 2009 P&R meeting at 7:00 p.m. in the KIB School District Conference Room
• November 24, 2009 P&R meeting at 7:00 p.m. in the KIB School District Conference Room
COMMITTEE MEMBER WEST said she will not be in town on November 24`
COMMITTEE MEMBER TSCHERSICH said he will not be here November 10` and will be back in the
evening of November 24 but he's not sure what time.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
Susan Payne suggested a sign contest as part of the education process regarding shooting issues.
COMMITTEE MEMBER'S COMMENTS
Dave Kaplan said he will keep pushing the shooting issue to the attention of his Assembly. At the last
Assembly meeting he reported what went on here briefly. It was actually Ms. Gish had the whole thing
on the radio that included citizen's comments.
Rick Lindholm stated that a public meeting for the tree thinning is very important.
Andy Schroeder said that due to the flooding Island Trails is going to do a PSA and start collecting info so
when the trails crew gets here next year they can begin fixing trails. If there are disaster relief funds
available it would be nice if DOT would set aside 1% for fixing the non - motorized and non -road
infrastructure. DOT has not said they will set aside 1 %.
Pam Foreman feels it would be worth a try to in any stuff you are writing up if we could include
information that many trails were damaged.
Cassidy said he will touch bases with DOT.
Pam Foreman stated someone has been logging on Rezanof Drive near Otmeloi Park with a big truck.
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Cassidy stated it is city land.
Mike Sirofchuck said that's an area that we have talked about having a green space.
Cassidy said it is city property.
Hans Tschersich said he had a report of someone living on Monashka Bay on the cliff that bullets hit the
rocks in front of his house that could have came from one of these shooting sites.
I Mike Sirofchuck thanked those willing to pursue some of the solutions that we are working on. It seems
we are coming in to some of our own with some concrete issues and he appreciates the support from the
Assembly through Dave Kaplan.
Dave Kaplan said the committee has some serious issues.
ADJOURNMENT
VICE CHAIR FOREMAN MOVED TO ADJOURN.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
Chair Sirofchuck adjourned the meeting at 8:15 p.m.
KODIAK ISLA I 1OROUGH
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i' ike Sirofc ck, Chair
ATTEST
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l Sheila Smith, Secretary
Community Development Dept.
APPROVED: November 10, 2009
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