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05/18/1995 Regular MeetingI. CALL TO ORDER The Airport Advisory Committee regular meeting of May 18, 1995, was called to order by Wayne Stevens, Chairman, at 6:40 p.m. in the borough conference room. II. ROLL CALL Present Stosh Anderson Wesley Campbell (for Cmdr. Miller) Cecil Ranney Scott Schleiffer Wayne Stevens Richard Waddell Mike Waller Airport Advisory Committee Absent Airport Advisory Committee May 18, 1995 6:30 p.m. Borough Conference Room Joe Brodman John Chya Mike Machulsky MINUTES Staff Guests Rachael Miller Pete Devaris Corky McCorkle Rolan Ruoss A quorum was established. III. ACCEPTANCE OF AGENDA The agenda was accepted unanimously as submitted. IV. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING The April 6, 1995 meeting minutes were unanimously approved as submitted. V. ITEMS OF BUSINESS 12 Develop a list of aviation- related project ideas. M. Develop Language to send to the City Council and the Borough Assembly regarding combining the two airport committees. Mr. Stevens suggested foregoing the recommended agenda in order to have a discussion with the City Airport Subcommittee prior to their meeting that was to follow the Airport Advisory Committee Meeting. Wayne Stevens welcomed the members of the City's Airport Subcommittee and thanked them for attending the meeting. He stated that the Borough had previously asked the City about representing both airports and had been turned down. He commented that the City Council had indicated that municipal airport was a City function and later formed the Airport Subcommittee to deal with airport issues. He Page 1 of 8 May 18, 1995 stated that the Airport Advisory Committee had allocated one half of the FY95 $14,000 Assembly allocation to the Airport Subcommittee. Mr. Stevens stated that an item of business was to discuss improvements to take to the Assembly for next year's budget. He asked who was the chairman of the City's Airport Subcommittee. It was stated that Stosh Anderson and Don Lawhead were the chairmen and Rolan Ruoss was acting chairman in their absence. Mr. Ruoss asked what the "piece of pie" would be in the next year. Mr. Stevens indicated that the previous year's allocation was $14,000 and stated that the committee(s) needed to make recommendations for expenditures. Corky McCorkle indicated that security fencing was the FY96 priority for municipal airport. Mr. Ruoss stated that the fencing was likely the most achievable thing at municipal. Mr. Schleiffer commented that a bigger view needed to be taken and suggested that the group list borough -wide items that would benefit aviation. He suested that the list could then be presented to the Assembly who could decide on priorities. He suggested that the group could come up with projects that could be eligible for grant funding. Mr. Ruoss mentioned the Airport Improvement (AIP) funding that was available. He pointed out that to get the funds there had to be government sponsorship for the proposal to be submitted to the Department of Transportation (DOT) who presented it to Federal Aviation Administration (FAA.) He stated that it took a minimum of two years to filter to the top of list. He suggested that the City/Borough could be the government sponsor. Mr. Ruoss also pointed out that the $14,000 allocated by the Assembly for aviation had evolved out of Stosh Anderson's efforts in figuring out the amount of taxes collected on aircraft at municipal airport. He stated that there was a larger resource to be utilized when considering all the planes in the Borough. Mr. Schleiffer stated that the committee shouldn't worry about the origin of the money. He suggested that the committee ask for funds and let the Assembly say no. Mr. Ruoss stated that the reality was the money was not going to come from the Borough. He stated that Trident Basin funding had come primarily from the State with the City providing a portion. He commented that it seemed unlikely that the Borough would be able to fund a lot of aviation. Mr. Stevens stated that the purpose of the Airport Advisory Committee was to get the community involved in aviation issues especially at state airport. He commented there were several areas the committee was tasked to work on including state airport. He mentioned that the committee had then approached the City to take a broader view of issues. Mr. Stevens stated that the borders needed to be set aside and the overall aviation picture needed to be considered by both groups. He indicated that the City and Borough committees needed to work together to ensure aviation in the community. Mr. Ruoss mentioned the condition of the parking lot at state airport. Mr. Stevens indicated that with the bridge work on Rezanof, the road up to state airport and the parking lot would be paved by the first of August. Airport Advisory Committee Page 2 of 8 May 18, 1995 Mr. Schleiffer pointed out that the road from the airport was the first impression for anyone visiting Kodiak. The group listed the following areas for borough -wide aviation improvements: Aircraft fueling facilities at all airports Completion of fencing /gates at municipal airport Aircraft approach lighting system on R25 instrument approach Access to and securing the right to use float plane haul out at state airport Lighting system at municipal airport Expansion of Trident Basin uplands dock Contact village councils for their suggestions Cold Storage Facility Warehouse Facilities for cargo operators Increase water /sewer capacity at state airport Security stickers/ID's for vehicles and operators at municipal airport Landscaping /clean up planting around state airport terminals Access to ramp at Trident Basin for hauling out Ms. Stevens pointed out that the haul -out ramp at state airport had been a concern of the Airport Advisory Committee and indicated that $7,000 in FY95 had been allocated to clean up the ramp. Pete Devaris pointed out that the road there wasn't maintained well and stated that he knew of a Beaver that had slid down the road. Mr. Stevens stated that maintenance of the haul -out area was an ongoing problem due to the budget concerns at DOT. He stated that part of the justification for the committee was to point out to the Assembly the need for community infrastructure in community facilities. Mr. McCorkle stated that he had attended an FAA joint aviation meeting in Anchorage. He indicated that the meeting covered security issues and a discussion of the limited budgets available to deal with federal regulations. He stated that the legislature was just not kicking out the dollars. He also pointed out that around the state, airports were now being treated like ports. Mr. Anderson addressed the seaplane haul -out at state airport and commented that all options of access needed to be explored so that it would not become a problem. Mike Waller stated he would like a lighting system at municipal airport. Mr. Ruoss stated that Trident Basin needed expansion. He pointed out that all of the flat ground was needed to accommodate users now, not to mention potential future users. He suggested that perhaps the FAA could be approached for funding. Mr. McCorkle indicated that Trident Basin was eligible for $47,000 in annual funding. Mr. Ruoss mentioned the AIP funds. Mr. McCorkle indicated that the AIP money was hard to get and stated that an environmental assessment needed to be completed. It was pointed out that Craig had received $1 million for airport improvements Airport Advisory Committee Page 3 of 8 May 18, 1995 Mr. Stevens indicated that Craig had a plan and stated that Kodiak needed a plan. Mr. Devaris indicated that there was a short- term/long -term plan for Trident Basin. It was stated that a copy of the Trident Basin plans would be forwarded to Rachael Miller for distribution to the Airport Advisory Committee. Mr. Anderson stated that they needed access to the ramp at Trident Basin to haul out. Mr. Ruoss asked if there were any village priorities. Mr. Stevens indicated that Larsen Bay was building a 10,000 square foot terminal facility at their airport. He suggested that the committee ask the Mayor to contact village councils for input on their airport priorities. Richard Waddell asked for an update on the fencing project at municipal airport. Mr. McCorkle indicated that the City Engineer had ordered the contractor to replace all fenceposts on the contractor's nickel, due to the fact that the fenceposts had been placed in frozen ground. Mr. McCorkle stated that he was looking at getting a small boat and motor to do search and rescues and clean up debris on Lilly Lake. He stated there were lots of complaints about debris and he suggested a community wide effort to clean up the lake. He mentioned that Bill Beatty had donated a couple of gates to municipal. Mr. McCorkle expressed gratitude for the donation. Mr. Stevens suggested a community-owned terminal facility at state airport that would allow the community the ability to attract new vendors. He stated that there was now a terminal facility that was practically vacant due to Mark Air pulling out of Alaska. He stated, however, that the facility might be tied up in legal proceedings for years. Mr McCorkle asked if Alaska Airlines owned their whole terminal. Mr. Stevens indicated that Alaska Airlines owned their terminal. He stated that there were a number of airport facilities owned by communities around Alaska. He stated he would like to keep the idea on the table for the group to think about and pointed out that the airport was the front door to the community. Mr. Anderson asked if Mr. Stevens envisioned the purchase of a new structure or the existing Mark Air building if the company went into Chapter 7. Mr. Stevens mentioned that the Coffman Study explored scenarios on facilities and recommended that existing structures be utilized. He stated that such a purchase would be an opportunity to get the community involved in infrastructure. He stated that Kodiak's airports were as critical to the fishing industry as docks and harbors. Mr. Schleiffer suggested cleaning up the planting around the buildings with some landscaping. Mr. McCorkle asked if a study or report detailing the ideas of the group that could be presented to the Council/Assembly. He stated that he agreed that the airports provided the major transportation in Kodiak. He stated there was plenty of land out at state Airport Advisory Committee Page 4 of 8 May 18, 1995 airport for development. He expressed frustration over the lack of tie -downs or T- hangars for the number of small aircraft in Kodiak. Mr. Anderson asked how long the lease was for Mark Air at the state ai port facility. He suggested that perhaps it could be timely thing to address in light of Mark Air's situation. He stated that other airlines would be major competitors for the space. The term of the Mark Air lease was not known. Mr. Schleiffer pointed out that there would already be an operator there to help offset the cost if Mark Air owned the whole building and the City was successful in bidding. Mr. Waller asked if the City or Borough would buy the building. Mr. Stevens said that either entity could buy the building. He suggested that the City could annex out there. Mr. Schleiffer stated that it wouldn't be out of line to create an airport authority there. Mr. McCorkle stated that the authority could be established by port authority and run as an enterprise fund. Mr. Stevens stated there were different options. Mr. Schleiffer suggested that the AIP money could be used at state airport if the group knew how to get it. Mr. Anderson stated that the process was slow and suggested that the Borough be approached now. Mr. Schleiffer agreed and stated the future should be considered. Mr. Stevens pointed out the growth potential at state airport with the aerospace and research facilities bringing more jobs into the community. He stated that there was a small personal ownership of aircraft in Kodiak because the facilities were not readily accessible. He stated he was amazed at the large fleet that was in Nome. Mr. Ruoss stated that hangars were needed to protect airplanes in Kodiak. Mr. Anderson stated a cold storage facility would be nice at state airport. He stated that it would not be that far from the processing facilities. Mr. Stevens suggested warehouse facilities for UPS, Federal Express and Northern Air Cargo. Mr. Schleiffer asked if a bonded warehouse was indicated in the Foreign Trade Zone information. Mr. Stevens stated that it was not known if a bonded warehouse was included, as a full and complete FTZ application had not yet been received. The need for increased sewer /water treatment capacity at state airport was mentioned. Airport Advisory Committee Page 5 of 8 May 18, 1995 Mr. Waddell indicated that he had access to a large DC -10 hangar. He stated that there was an optimal piece of property at state airport where Northern Air Cargo taxied in that was flat and had access to water, sewer and electrical. He indicated that the hangar would provide space for emergency trucks and lots of storage. He stated that he had put in a proposal to locate the hangar there but had been told that the area was designated for small aircraft. He stated that he was also contacted by a midwest company flying 747's who indicated that if Kodiak had that facility, they would be interested in establishing Kodiak as a stop from the midwest for seafood. He stated that the prohibition on extra facilities for sewer was one other item that shot down the idea. Mr. McCorkle asked if there were restrictions with the military lease regarding access to sewer. Mr. Stevens indicated that the lease had the right to say there could be no new water /sewer hook ups. Mr. McCorkle suggested a review of the existing use plan. Mr. Stevens stated that the airport was currently operating off of the master plan of 83, 84 and 85. He suggested that the committee could push for a revision of that plan. Mr. Waddell indicated that he would make the hangar available if there was a place to put it. Mr. Stevens indicated that the lease/license issue needed to be resolved first. Mr. Schleiffer stated that it was time to write to Senators and Congressmen. He asked if the water /sewer system was capable of handling new hook ups. Wesley Campbell stated that the processing was currently overloaded. He stated that the lease limited use to 25,000 gallons of water per day. Mr. McCorkle stated that a different system could be used for the building proposed by Mr. Waddell. Mr. Schleiffer stated that a cold storage /warehouse was not going to put a demand on water /sewer. Mr. Waller asked what the current hold up was on T- hangars. Mr. Schleiffer indicated that the hold up was because of the license/lease issue. He stated that no one would lend on a license or a lease that was only 5 years in duration. Mr. Waller asked if there was a problem if someone had the money to put up a T- hangar. Mr. Stevens stated that if someone had the funds, it would not be a problem. Mr. Anderson stated that at a different facility he had a state lease and indicated that as long as a person had the money, it would be no problem. Mr. Devaris stated that the same issue would come up at Trident Basin. He commented that no banks would want to touch development over there if the lease was under 10 years. Airport Advisory Committee Page 6 of 8 May 18, 1995 Mr. Stevens indicated that was not to say that the lease terms couldn't be brought back to the voters by petition in a public relations effort. Mr. McCorkle asked what the Borough charter was on a lease. Mr. Waller indicated that he had a 15 -year lease from the Borough and indicated he thought the term could go up to 25 years. Mr. Stevens suggested that the discussion be wrapped up due to the time. He asked if anyone had any other thoughts. Mr. Anderson stated that he would like to see controlled access to the entire municipal airport and mentioned it would be great if good access could be obtained off of Von Scheele. Mr. McCorkle stated that Bill Beatty's gates would work well there. Mr. Anderson stated that politically there needed to be secure access before the public would swallow that. Mr. Waddell commented that in the interest of security he would like to see security stickers on all vehicles/operators at municipal. Mr. Schleiffer stated that identification cards and keys were important and would be the responsibility of a port authority if there was one. He indicated that municipal airport should meet the same security requirements to be on the ramp at state airport. He commented that security had to be given it's due. Mr. McCorkle stated that the City's insurance company had indicated that if the City were to provide tie downs their insurance would sky rocket whereas it would not be as high if users provided their own tie downs. Mr. Anderson stated that as a summary the Airport Subcommittee should provide the Airport Advisory Committee with their paperwork from the past that included their lists of improvements. Mr McCorkle addressed the idea of forming one committee. He suggested a joint venture with the committees still meeting singularly. He suggested the two committees start off meeting jointly until they got a better feel for how things would work. He stated that combining efforts was a good idea and could be very effective. He suggested that maybe the option of combining committees would look good down the road. Mr. Waller suggested that the Airport Subcommittee open their meetings to the public. Mr. McCorkle clarified that the Airport Subcommittee meetings were open to the public. Mr. Anderson stated that the possibility of a joint City/Borough committee in the future was good. He stated the committee structure would need to be looked at to keep the interest of each member. He suggested that the joint committee would have four areas of focus: State Airport, Trident Basin, Municipal Airport and the Villages. He stated the group could be structured in a way to get representation from all groups. He Airport Advisory Committee Page 7 of 8 May 18, 1995 commented that the concept would be constructive and would lend itself to subcommittees to work on certain areas. Mr. Devaris stated that he was initially hesitant about the idea of combining the groups because it would mean more airport meetings, and a focus on state airport his main area of focus. He stated that he couldn't have been more wrong and indicated that the meeting brought to light many areas of shared concern. He stated that some of the bigger issues would take a large political effort. He suggested that a series of subcommittees reporting back to a unified front (perhaps an airport would be useful. He commented that the idea of ports and airplanes working together authority) merit. Mr. Stevens stated that everyone had the opportunity to toss out ideas on how to accomplish goals and he stated that it appeared that there was interest in proceeding with those discussions. He suggested that ideas could be drafted to merge the committees into one. Mr. Ruoss suggested planning ahead for another joint session. He pointed out that the summer was busy for everyone and suggested a meeting in late September. The next joint meeting date was set for Thursday, September 21, 1995 at 6:30 p.m. Mr. Waller stated that the committees working together might be a big surprise to the Assembly and City Council. Mr. Anderson thanked Mr. Stevens for inviting the Airport Subcommittee to the meeting. Mr. Stevens acknowledged that Mr. McCorkle would be retiring soon. He stated that he had enjoyed working with Mr. McCorkle and thanked him for his years of service. VI. COMMENTS Mr. Stevens mentioned that Pen Air was starting new air service to King Salmon on June 4. VII. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 7 :45 p.m. Respectfully submitted by: Rachael V. Mil er Wa ne Stevens, Chairman Secretary Airport Advisory Committee Page 8 of 8 May 18, 1995 LIST OF RECOMMENDED BOROUGH-WIDE AVIATION IMPROVEMENTS At the May 18, 1995 m members from the Airport Advisory Committee and the City Airport Subcommittee listed the following areas for borough -wide aviation improvements: 1. Aircraft fueling facilities at all airports 2. Completion of fencing/gates at municipal airport 3. Aircraft approach lighting system on R25 instrument approach 4. Access to and securing the right to use float plane haul out at state airport 5. Lighting system at municipal airport 6. Expansion of Trident Basin uplands dock 7. Contact village councils for their suggestions 8. Cold Storage Facility 9. Warehouse Facilities for cargo operators 10. Increase water /sewer capacity at state airport 11. Security stickers/ID's for vehicles and operators at municipal airport 12. Landscaping/clean up planting around state airport terminals 13. Access to ramp at Trident Basin for hauling out 14. Community acquisition of public terminal facilities at state airport.