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December 11, 2012 regular meeting 7 p.m. in the KIB Schoo W.tnct Conference Room
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
Requested excusal was Sandra West and Rick Lindholm.
Committee members present were Pam Foreman, Hans Tschersich, Jeff Huntley, Patrick
Saltonstall, Andy Schroeder, and Michael Marion. Excused were Rick Lindholm and Sandra
West. Absent ex- officio members were Jack Ransom, Aaron Griffin, Steve Doerksen, Alan
Schmitt, and Brent Watkins.
A quorum was established.
Community Development Department staff present was Duane Dvorak and Sheila Smith.
COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN MOVED to excuse Sandra West and Rick Lindholm.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
COMMITTEE MEMBER HUNTLEY MOVED to approve the agenda.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHROEDER requested excusal from the November 13, 2012
meeting the following day so he requested not to be excused due to requesting after the
fact.
Regular meeting of:
• September 25, 2012
• October 9, 2012
• October 23, 2012
• October 30, 2012
• November 13, 2012 as amended
COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN MOVED to amend the November 13th minutes striking
the line in the 2 paragraph under Roll Call striking the section in parens amended at the
December 11th meeting to reflect Andy Schroeder as excused.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN MOVED to approve the minutes of September 25th,
October 9th, October 23rd, October 30th, and the amended November 13th minutes.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
AUDIENCE COMMENTS AND APPEARANCE REQUESTS
There were none.
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OLD BUSINESS
A) Leisnoi Land
Dvorak stated the exchange process doesn't formally give the P &R or P &Z an advisory roll
in land exchange. This will give you an update on where the process is at and what parcels
are being looked at for acquisition by the borough.
Bob Scholze gave a brief update on A -1 Timber and Leisnoi. Scholze stated we've identified
properties that we've agreed on that Leisnoi's board is willing to discuss that includes Twin
Creeks, Mid Point, Rosalyn Beach, Thumbs Up, Myrtle Beach, Mayflower Beach, and Pawn,
and also fishing access corridors along the Olds and American Rivers and a right of way
corridor that's included in this. Scholze stated there are some properties that Leisnoi does
not want on the table at this time; Termination Point, Long Island, Chiniak Lake, Sequel
Point, Kalsin Pond, and Cape Greville. We'll have ongoing discussions with equal value.
Leisnoi representatives present were Von A. Veeh -CEO, Christian Schmidt - locally based
Forester, and Karl Polts- Operating Officer. Bob Scholze was also present and gave a brief
update. Scholze gave a brief update on A -1 Timber wanting to buy the timber on the tract.
Veeh stated it's a new Leisnoi and they want to work with the residents of Kodiak and the
Borough, set a new image. The corporation wants to thrive, grow and provide benefits for
its shareholders. We finally have that opportunity but will move through the process
cautiously.
. Leisnoi and Daurio gave a PowerPoint presentation on what parcels are being discussed on
the land exchange. Veeh stated the lines were just added and they're more for discussion
purposes and is conceptual. Daurio stated that Christian Schmidt just pointed out some big
discrepancies between our data and their data. Before any exchanges could take place
those discrepancies will have to be addressed.
Discussion of surveying, easements, Salonie Creek purchase, stocking of rivers for public
access use, 176 easements, trails, and the hope that Termination Point makes it to the list
for discussion.
COMMITTEE MEMBER TSCHERSICH said he hopes Termination Point makes it the list to be
discussed.
B) TMO's
During discussion Daurio explained the how the trails were laid out and TMO's she created
and the committee reviewed the TMO's and relayed any changes to Dvorak and Daurio.
Discussion of trailheads, parking, outhouses, archeological surveys, and such.
COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHROEDER MOVED to accept TMO's A -1 through A -5 as amended.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
Per Daurio's asked what they need from her for the summit, CHAIR SALTONSTALL stated
we'll present some of these TMO's and show how we came up with them, CHAIR
SALTONSTALL will do a presentation, then Cassidy can do a presentation so he thinks we
should do the same thing. COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHROEDER proposed Daurio can do a
map of A -1 through A -5 and none of the others so there's no confusion. CHAIR
SALTONSTALL thinks we should show all of them. We will talk about the TMO's, talk about
what we've done, talk about amending the form, and then invite input on other areas where
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people are having problems, and then we'll look at one area in particular, I think we had
talked about the Jack Lakes area. Cassidy can put up a map of Jack Lakes, these are the trails
we have, this is the code and invite input on it.
They were in consensus on Jack Lakes area. We will need to talk before the summit.
Daurio will be going out of town and returning January 14th.
C) Map Advisory Statement
Dvorak stated the emails came in 2 different bunches and the TMO was inserted between
them. The original email is from Tschersich from June 13th and it gives a comprehensive
critic of the trail user guide that was a by- product of the Trails Planning process. We've
looked at putting in a sticker or disclaimer.
Committee consensus to use Tschersich's language for the labels.
Discussion regarding the City of Kodiak representing their land on Russian Ridge before
the Trail Summit. Once ready for review we will share with the city.
COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN MOVED to add label to the Trail User Guide Maps that
says "The trail use designated on this map is a general classification used by the National
Forest Service and does not reflect the trails authorized use and that label be located on the
map directly above the label Urban Trails."
Nicholas S. Pennington was present from the City of Kodiak to hear about the Leisnoi land,
TMO's, and advisory statement.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
NEW BUSINESS
There were none.
COMMUNICATIONS
A) Local Officials Help Bicyclists Their Cause
Dvorak said Cassidy submitted this.
COMMITTEE MEMBER HUNTLEY MOVED to accept communications.
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
REPORTS
Meeting Schedule:
• January 8, 2013 Parks & Recreation Committee meeting at 7:00 p.m. in the KIB
School District Conference Room
• January 22, 2012 Parks & Recreation Committee Trail Summit at 7:00 p.m. in the
High School Commons
COMMITTEE MEMBER HUNTLEY MOVED to accept reports
VOICE VOTE ON MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
There were none.
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COMMITTEE MEMBER'S COMMENTS
Pam Foreman wished everyone Happy Holidays.
Patrick Saltonstall thanked Daurio and he liked GIS Day.
Mike Marion said he hopes the Assembly keeps us engaged in the Leisnoi land exchange
and asks us for input.
Hans Tschersich said this is his last meeting and he's the oldest one and has been on the
committee for 15 years. He's happy there is something done that you can sink your teeth
into. Russian Ridge is the apple of his eye.
All the committee members thanked Tschersich for all his years of service.
Patrick Saltonstall stated he was happy that Leisnoi decided to come, that's huge.
ADJOURNMENT
COMMITTEE MEMBER FOREMAN MOVED to adjourn.
CHAIR SALTONSTALL adjourned the meeting at 9:12 p.m.
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PARKS & ICRE TION CO MINITE I
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Patrick Saltonsta -hair
ATTEST
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Sheila Smith, Secretary
APPROVED: January 8, 2012
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