02/05/2008 Regular Meeting
Minutes
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A.
Call to Order
Architectural/Engineering Review Board Meeting
5 February 2008 - 5:30 pm ' ~;~A9 h Long
KIB Conference Room L__~'~~
The Chair called the meeting to order at 5:33 pm.
B. Roll Call
ARB Members present were Scott Arndt, Jerrol Friend, Gregg Hacker, Charlie Jerling, Jay
Johnston and Brent Watkins. Absent Member was Reed Oswalt. Representing the School
District was Bob Tucker. Representing the KIB Engineering and Facilities Department were
Ken Smith and Sharon Lea Adinolfi. Also present were Brenda Friend and Monte Hawver.
C. Approval of Agenda
It was moved and seconded to approve the Agenda. There was a unanimous affirmative roll call
vote.
D. Review of CHC Cost Savings
K. Smith told the Board that options for cost savings had been received from two of the bidders
and the architects. The options were discussed in a teleconference with the architect. He noted
that some changes had been agreed to by those participating in the conference - Don Rush,
Jimmy Ng, Stan Thompson, Brenda Friend and Ken Smith. A spreadsheet of the options
provided by Jay-Brant, Brechan and Prochaska and comments made during the telecom are part
of the informational package for this meeting. Before drawings are done, based on the changes,
would like the ARB to review and discuss.
B. Friend noted that it had been difficult to make a decision where there was no cost associated
with some of the proposed cost savings options. She also reiterated her desire for open windows.
Curt Field of Prochaska & Associates joined the meeting telephonically at 5:45 pm.
He began with possible changes based on discussions with Stan Thompson [see C. Field's email
of 1/29/08 attached].
Deletion of sidewalk at driveway entrance.
B. Watkins noted that part of the P&Z decision involving this area was that non-vehicular traffic
would be promoted. Deleting a sidewalk did not seem to coincide.
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B. Friend said that particular comer is dangerous and she was not sure foot traffic should be
encouraged.
C. Jerling agreed that it was a dangerous comer, but felt the sidewalk would be protective. He
also felt it was aesthetically appropriate to keep in the plan
The Chair asked for concurrence ofthe Board - 4-2 in favor ofleaving the sidewalk in.
C. Field's next item dealt with the removal and replacement of the two light fixtures closest to
the addition - Stan Thompson had pointed out they were the overheads on wood poles and they
were all intended to match. C. Field said they would match.
Additional parking lot light fixture. Prochaska's light consultant said that additional light
coverage was not needed. The Board agreed.
Signage. C. Field said this item was tabled at the moment - but a new sign would have similar
colors and would be sized to fit. He noted that the sign would need to go through approval
channels and there might also be a right of way issue.
The Chair suggested stubbing out from the street light to the sign position and leaving remove
and replace of sign in the plans.
Repaving of parking lot west of loading dock. Stan Thompson advocated for an overlay in that
area that would drain to the west. C. Field said this would be costly.
The consensus of the Board was to not add dollars to the Project - the parking lot is the
responsibility of the Borough. C. Field said there would be some additional design charges for
that work. The Chair suggested putting it into the bid package as an additive alternate.
Change regarding stall size and sloping. Consensus of the Board was to accept the changes
recommended by the Civil Engineer.
Discussion - Jay-Brant's proposed cost savings list
Delete Segmental Concrete Retaining Walls - C. Field to work with K. Smith on this.
Water and sewer lines - C. Field said the depths will change when the wall changes - this issue
is moot now because everything has been revised. He noted that the sanitary lines would be
without bends, a manhole has been eliminated but need to replace with ductile iron.
Deck issue - use 5/8" fire coat sheetrock. Board concurred.
Delete art glass - Board agreed.
Delete ceramic tile in restrooms and replace w/FRP. Board consensus was to stay with ceramic
tile.
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Lower cost tile in restroom floors. Board concurred.
J. Friend, G. Hacker and K. Smith all agreed that since the CHC had enough money to
accomplish the Project it was not in its best interests to nickel and dime things to the point that
long time durability of finishes, for example, was sacrificed.
Provide lower cost carpet tiles in training room.
B. Friend noted that the CHC does not call for carpet tiles - the training room is in the Hospital.
J. Friend said that if lower cost carpet tile was used [in the Hospital] the same glue, etc. should
be used as what exists for stocking efficiency.
Delete vinyl wall covering in training room - Yes - ok to go with painting.
B. Friend said she would like to know the actual cost savings before making a decision on
deleting vinyl in the CHC.
Rubber waste cans - No.
No to Timely style knockdown door frames.
Board in agreement with partition wall arrangement in training room.
Delete requirement for AISC Cert. - Board agreed.
Reconsider Rll requirement - Board agreed.
Delete requirement for snow jax.
J. Johnston suggested if the structure were strong enough, a high density foam could be used if
the snow jax were not going to be replaced.
C. Field requested information on the high density foam - J. Johnston to supply.
Roofing standard seismic joint covers - it was agreed to leave it as designed.
Discussion - Brechan's proposed cost savings list
C. Field indicated that most items on this list had already been addressed.
Siding. Consensus was to stay with matching the existing siding.
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Discussion - Prochaska's proposed cost savings list
Keep sensor/hands-free plumbing fixtures.
Eliminate cable trays.
Change dome lights to manual lever system.
Eliminate recessed can lights.
Phone speaker paging - No. Use overhead paging system to remain compatible with Hospital
system.
Leave in windows w/vents.
Vinyl wall to paint using accent color acceptable to B. Friend.
Other items to be worked out w/B. Friend include art glass and soffit in lobby.
Other items discussed between C. Field and S. Thompson included:
cubicle curtains supplied by owner
some hydronic pumps to be deleted
cameras by owner
Discussion regarding amount ofliquidated damages - Board recommended $250/day.
Consensus of the Board regarding completion date - need to select a date that is realistic and
have it in the RFQ.
C. Field asked about dimmable switches - Board agreed to not use dimmable switches but to
install more regular switches so that different lighting needs would still be available.
C. Field that there were 3 items deleted [in discussion with S. Thompson].
emergency potable water
expansion bellows
variable frequency. drive
K. Smith said he had reviewed these wi S. Thompson.
C. Field said that he anticipated going out to bid on the 25th of February. The biggest issue
would be putting together "clean documents".
S. Arndt thanked C. Field for his time and participation. The telecom ended at 7:20 pm.
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E. Approval of Ouzinkie Drawings
A Motion was made by J. Johnston and seconded by G. Hacker to approve 65% drawings for
Ouzinkie Seismic Upgrade and Renovation. There was a unanimous affirmative roll call vote.
F. Public Comments
B. Friend, in response to a question from G. Hacker regarding monies available for the Project,
said the CHC already has approval for funding above and beyond the cost of the Project. She
also told the Board that since Dr. Halter left the CHC has taken on many new patients. There is
only one fulltime doctor and one part time doctor. She said that just in the last month she has
had 5 site visits by potential physicians and the congested situation is not inviting. She
encouraged moving the project forward.
K. Smith said that he hoped there were enough savings to be made to keep the parking lot site in
the Project as the Assembly had made it clear there will no further funds forthcoming beyond the
$750K.
G. Board Comments
None.
H. Adjournment
There being no further business to come before the meeting, a motion was made by J. Friend and
seconded by B. Watkins to adjourn and there was a unanimous affirmative voice vote.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:32 pm.
Sharon Lea A m 1, roject Assistant
KID Engineering/Facilities Department
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Scott Arndt, Chair
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