1998-11-04 Regular Meeting
MINUTES
Personnel Advisory Board
4 tit Quarter Regular Meeting
November 4, 1998
5: 15 p.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER
The Personnel Advisory Board fourth quarter regular meeting of November 4, 1998,
was called to order by Chris Nielsen, Chairman, at 5: 17 p.m. in the borough conference
room.
II. ROLL CALL
Present
Staff
Chris J amin
Warren Russell
Chris Nielsen
Dorothy Weeks
Bud Cassidy
Tom Dunham
Linda Freed
Chris Lynch
Sharon Kennedy
Tom Manninen
Kaye R. McClain
Mary Munk
Eileen Probasco
James A. Skog
Tina Seelinger
Paul VanDyke
David Weinand
Linda Moore- staff support
(Note: a vacancy on the board has not yet been filled since resignation of Craig Fanning
who moved from Kodiak.)
A quorum was established.
Ill. ACCEPT ANCE OF AGENDA
The agenda was accepted as submitted.
IV. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS REGULAR MEETING
The minutes of the third quarter meeting of July 22, 1998 were approved unanimously.
V. ITEMS OF BUSINESS
a) Ordinance 98-23, referred to Personnel Advisory Board August 6, 1998
Mr. Nielsen read aloud Ordinance 98-23 and opened the floor to discussion. Ms.
Jamin asked about the need for a decision. Mr. Russell read from the minutes of the
Assembly, dated August 6, 1998, which stated they were looking for the advisory
board to review the ordinance and make recommendations to the Assembly. Ms.
Jamin stated that items a-e of202.1 were in the Personnel Manual with paragraph item
"f' being the item added for approval within Ordinance 98-23. This new paragraph
would give the Borough Assembly the additional responsibility and authority to
establish Borough policy regarding personnel matters including: "f Approve, by
ordinance, additions and/or changes to position descriptions, position classification
plans and salary schedule." She added that the duties were now under the new
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manager's job description. Members indicated that they had read the Manager's
memo dated November 3, 1998. Mr. Nielsen agreed that paragraph "f" was the only
item to be addressed and that it appeared the Assembly wanted to take responsibilities
away from the Borough manager, and return it back to the Assembly. Ms. Jamin
suggested referring to the Personnel Manual, Section 304, Position Descriptions,
stating that the Borough Manager, " shall analyze and evaluate the duties and
responsibilities of each position description to assure that it reflects the tasks that are
needed to meet the goals and objectives of the Kodiak Island Borough. Upon the
Manager's approval of the position description, it shall be reviewed for proper
placement on the salary schedule. The Manager will recommend any new or revised
salary range placement to the Personnel Board". Before voting it was agreed that the
new manager should be introduced.
Public Comments:
Mr. Tom Manninen referred to his memo expressing his strong feelings of where the
manager should be and the existing duties of the position. He stated that it was not
necessary to change the ordinance to accomplish goals and objectives of the assembly
since basically the assembly appoints the Personnel Advisory Board, the assembly
approves the budget, hires the manager and controls the entire system. He stated that
administering a personnel pay plan has the potential to open up the Borough to some
litigation and should be handled in a confidential manner as in the past. He did not
think it should be a political decision but an administrative decision. He felt defensive
about writing a memo so early in his short tenure but saw it as an important critical
core management issue. He concluded that he appreciated the consideration and
recommendation of his memo to the assembly.
Mr. Nielsen opened the floor to discussion of paragraph "f".
Ms. Tina Seelinger, Child Care Assistance Administrator, stated that she agreed with
the Manager's memo.
Mr. Manninen added that his memo was given to employees after the Board had
received the memo. Since it was a public meeting he felt they were entitled to receive
that information. He felt that staff members were present because they had their own
concerns.
Linda Freed, Community Development Director, stated that previously job
descriptions were taken before the assembly during regular meetings and usually
amended without administrative input. She felt the process became political and
placed an unnecessary liability burden on the Borough. She added that in the past, due
to this ordinance procedure to the assembly, job descriptions were not updated and
were inaccurate which resulted in an out of date personnel system.
Dave Weinand, Maintenance worker, liked the thought of working for the Manager.
He felt it would be less intimidating to file a complaint to one person rather than
several.
James Skog felt that the personnel policy was fine and the Manager should be allowed
to do his job. He didn't feel that the Assembly had time for extra meetings.
Bud Cassidy, Resource Manager and Shop Steward, said he was not formally
representing the union, as they had not taken a position on this ordinance. He
appreciated hearing Ms. Freed's history since it was prior to his being hired. He stated
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that they hired a manager to do whatever was necessary to achieve their goals and
objectives and they should allow the manager to perform his duties. Mr. Cassidy stated
that the salary schedule and process were adopted by the assembly with a position
given a numerical rating through a mathematical function depending on the
responsibility level. He concluded that the process may not be the best system but the
Personnel Advisory Board should look at changing the process if necessary and
support the Manager.
In response to Mr. Nielsen, Mr. Cassidy answered that the personnel policies accepted
by the Assembly were a part of the two-year old union contract.
Mr. Nielsen asked if this was a negotiable issue or cause for a grievance. Mr. Cassidy
answered that the wage and salary schedule was set by the manager and certainly wage
considerations were a mandatory item.
In response to Ms. Jamin, Mr. Cassidy answered that there were personnel, primarily
department heads, that were not covered under the contract and, theoretically, changes
could be made to the policy that would effect them as non-union people. Mr. Cassidy
further stated that union employees were protected under the contract to a certain
extent; however, the Borough Assembly could eliminate positions. He added the
assembly budgeted for human resource training and felt they would want to use those
experts to keep the Borough out of litigation.
Ms. Kaye McClain, Project Assistant, urged the board to support the manager and
vote against the ordinance.
Board Member Comments:
Ms. Jamin stated she agreed with most of the discussion and felt the assembly as a
policy making body did not need to get involved in the day to day management of
personnel issues or micro-managing. She added that since the manager was willing
and able to manage that this policy should not be changed. She stated that she would
vote against it.
Ms. Weeks agreed with Ms. Jamin and said it sounded like there was a breakdown in
the lines of communication between employees, the manager and the assembly. She
felt that getting into everyday issues could cause real problems. She stated she would
vote against the ordinance.
Mr. Russell was disappointed that there was no one present to represent the other side
to find out their rationale. He added that just on merit alone, the points brought up
were valid and made good managerial sense. He stated that these points were the
reasonable person's standard that he liked to base his decisions on. He noted that in
the minutes from the regular assembly minutes, former Mayor Selby also stated that
the change was ill advised and that lawsuits had developed from this type of issue. He
wondered if those issues were even considered by the person that brought them out
and did they think about what they were doing.
Director Freed clarified that Assemblymember Arndt was on the Assembly in the early
80's when the ordinance procedure was used.
Mr. Cassidy added that the personnel minutes from the last meeting gave a fairly good
discussion of why this issue was presented. The Board expressed that this was only
one person's view.
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Mr. Nielsen read aloud from page three of the Personnel Advisory Board meeting
minutes of July 22, 1998 in which Mr. Arndt indicated that it was his intent to bring
job descriptions back to the assembly. It was noted that Mr. Arndt was not present to
give them more background.
Mr. Nielsen asked if there was any further discussion.
Discussion was held on language for the motion. Mr. Russell made the motion, with a
second by Ms. Jamin, '''that Ordinance 98-23 be accepted by the Personnel Advisory
Board and be forwarded to the Assembly for adoption". The motion failed with all
members voting nay.
b) Personnel Status Reoort
Ms. Weeks asked about any suits or grievances against the Borough. Ms. Moore
indicated that there were none within the personnel area of the Borough.
Mr. Nielsen and Ms. Jamin added that they liked having phone numbers with the list of
the employees.
Ms. Weeks stated that there had been an exceptional amount of new hires and
terminations and wondered if this had to do with the changes in the borough. Ms.
Jamin stated that there were a lot of temporaries. Ms. Moore indicated that there had
been the normal summer turnover but there also was extraordinary changes made in
personnel. She indicated that there did not seem to be any particular reason with some.
resignations due to family changes with spouses relocating but none appeared to be
associated with the change in management. Ms. Weeks noted that there were forty-
one persons now with the Borough which seemed low. She was reminded by Ms.
Jamin that the staff of mental health was now with the hospital.
Ms. J amin asked if the Personnel Manual would be changed to reflect the revised
wording from Mayor to Manager. Ms. Moore indicated that that the' manual language
had been changed and the copying process would begin next week. A copy of the
Personnel Manual changes would be sent to each Board member.
Mr. Nielsen asked about the special meeting mentioned. Ms. Moore indicated that a
date for a special meeting of the directors was needed to address the job description
changes and to approve the job/salary placement for the Clerk's department for the
new position of Assistant Clerk. She indicated that the items to be addressed were in
the Personnel Status Report. She stated that all materials would be distributed to each
member for review of the recommendations and determination factors prior to the
meeting date.
Ms. Weeks asked if someone should go to the Borough Assembly meeting to answer
any questions. Ms. Moore confirmed that a copy of the minutes would go to the
Clerk's office.
Director Freed stated that the Assembly had a provision on the agenda for committee
representatives and that the committee could decide if the action was significant
enough to have a representative present.
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Ms. Weeks stated that a representative from the advisory board should be present if
the Assembly was discussing the ordinance and had any questions. It was suggested
that they all could attend the next Assembly meeting as they had once done in the past.
Mr. Nielsen asked for clarification about the changes being made in the Clerk's office.
Ms. Moore indicated there was no new position at this time and that the Board's
approval of the position and salary placement needed to be made. She suggested that
a possible meeting date could be set while all the members were together. She stated
that the Clerk was anxious to have these changes addressed; however, not everything
was finalized. She felt the documents would be ready within a week or two. Brief
discussion to set a date. She stated that the Clerk would like to be present and asked
that the date not conflict with an assembly meeting but there was no rush to do it
immediately. Mr. Russell and Ms. Jamin indicated that they would be unavailable
during the weeks of November 16th and 23rd, respectively.
Mr. Manninen suggested that the board delay their meeting until after the next regular
Assembly meeting scheduled for December 3rd in which the Assembly would address
Ordinance 98-23. Ms. Jamin suggested Monday, December 7, 1998 for a special
meeting to address the one issue. The group agreed on that date and set a time of
5:15 p.m. Ms. Moore said that she would have all materials out to the members in
advance of the meeting.
In response to Mr. Russell, Ms. Moore indicated that the PC Technician I to LAN
Administrator was a promotion and the new employee would start November 9th.
Vf. COMMENTS
Ms. Weeks extended her thanks to all employees for coming. She indicated that she was
glad to meet the new Manager and see all the folks there.
Mr. Cassidy thanked her and the board for being volunteers.
VII. ADJOURNMENT
The fourth quarter regular meeting was adjourned at 6:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by:
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Secretary
Chris Nielsen, Chairman
APPROVED:
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