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09/05/2007 Regular Meeting~. °;.~, f ;~ Minutes '~4., f, ArchitecturaUEngineering Review Board Meetin~.F''~~ 5 September 2007 - 5:30 pm '~- KIB Conference Room ~ ~, . ~~`~ ~~ ,. A. Call to Order The meeting was convened by the Chair at 5:30 pm. B. Roll Call ARB Members present were Scott Arndt, Jerrol Friend, Gregg Hacker, Charlie Jerling, Jay Johnston, Reed Oswalt and Brent Watkins. Present from ECI/Hyer were Terry Hyer [telephonically] and Jae Shin. Ken Smith, Woody Koning and Sharon Lea Adinolfi, E/F Department, were present. C. Approval of Agenda It was moved and seconded the Agenda be approved. There was a unanimous affirmative voice vote. D. Approval of Minutes Minutes from 9, 30 and 31 July 2007 were distributed for review, to be correctedlapproved at next meeting. E. Review of 95% Bid Ready Documents for New Pool T. Hyer said that most changes had been resolved, specs were complete and this review was an opportunity to respond to any lingering or outstanding issues. J. Shin suggested going through the list of comments. Environmental Specs T. Hyer indicated that these were more recommendations rather than mandates -would be good to leave in 1230 and 1350. Issue raised regarding designing to 2003 Code. A review of past ARB Minutes revealed that designing to the 2006 Code was Board consensus. T. Hyer and J. Shin had not seen that as direction and T. Hyer's position was that it was not "the law of the land". Item regarding storm drain had been addressed. Discussion regarding drop in parking lot down to road -from 15 in down to 12 in at the street. S. Arndt indicated that there was erosion that goes on toward Powell. Water comes off the playground and eats gravel away. G. Hacker suggested a catch basin or a curb to carry the water down to the street. Discussion ensued regarding additional design time [read additional cost], making this a separate project from the pool. There was concern if this drainage issue was not resolved as the pool is constructed and NG is doing its paving, it would not get done. W. Koning said he did not want to see this attached to the pool, possibly slowing the process down and costing more money, but would suggest making it a priority and bringing to the Assembly. Item no 20 -cleaned up - J. Shin reviewed drawing. Gabion will become a deduct alt. S. Arndt expressed his adversity to gabions and asked about wall blocks. T. Hyer said wall blocks would not save. Item 30 has been addressed. Item 36 has been addressed. Item 37 -benches are between columns on the building -not embedded. There will be premanufactured wall mounted trash cans. Item 40 -everything changed to chain link. T. Hyer reminded there was a 1 % for art. T. Hyer suggested picking asite -such as the fence area -and having artists design something. S. Arndt said that chain link will eventually rust and suggested green vinyl coated fencing. Jay suggested green vinyl coated 1 x 1. It was noted that stamped concrete wears worse than aggregate. J. Shin suggested simple concrete cubes in the large space -moveable. G. Hacker suggested artwork -sculpture instead of concrete blocks. J. shin went on to review the reconfigured shallow area of the pool. W. Koning said the deed issue still needed to be addressed. He noted that there would need to be approval because of the increased square footage. Item 105 -alarm system is required. W. Koning questioned the use of aluminum panels for siding -asking it that material was recommended for a salt environment? J. Shin explained the Duragard Plus Coating system. S. Arndt questioned the allowance for drainage under the pool. J. Shin said there are footing drains around the building -also have drains throughout the mechanical space and a catch basin. G. Hacker asked if there were a way to get ground water out of the basin. J. Shin said he would look at that, although he thought that it had been accounted for. R. Oswalt felt there should be a drain pipe. T. Hyer and J. Shi to check. G. Hacker said there is an automatic relief valve underneath the pool - do not want groundwater coming up through that vent. Jay asked if there were other suppliers besides Centria, noting they were always the most expensive. J. Shin said Centric offers a clip that is integrated -any other system you have to put in channels to bring it out. K. Smith asks clarification of section in mechanical room -shows 7 ft to centerline and is supposed to have 7 ft clear. C. Jerling questioned why variable speed drives are 16 and not 15 and then under 164895 shows motor servers go to 15915 -you go to variable speed drive - at 3.5 spells out correct horsepower requirement. Discussion regarding dates for RFP. It was noted that once the new pool is ready to accept UV/Saline systems, the old pool will have to be shut down. G. Hacker noted that shipping and receiving cannot be shut down for 60 days and will need to have fire lane access to KMS and back of HS gym. He said access needed to be maintained. He said coordination issues will be important. He continued regarding the fence construction -need to flip so locks are on top - sharp ends need to go down -this is opposite of what is shown on drawings. Top rails on fencing are called out in the specs but not shown on drawings. G. Hacker moved to approve the specs/drawings as corrected. R. Oswalt seoncded the motion. There was a unanimous roll call vote. J. Shin thanked the Board for all the time spent and hoped the Board appreciated the time spent by the architects. i`i. i 1.~~ll\; l^..ommCilts None F. Board Comments R. Oswalt said it was good to see responses to issues raised by the Board. Jay said it was a good project and that he appreciated ECUHyer work on the finishing punchlists. C. Jerling expressed some concern regarding the winter building period. G. Hacker -None B. Watkins thanked the architects for their work and said he was glad to see the RFP ready to be put out. W. Koning passed out copies of a confidential legal opinion regarding ARB's ability to change a recommendation of a proposer to an RFP. Instructions given by the Clerk's Office required the copies be returned after having been read and that there would be no discussion regarding the opinion. G. Adjournment There being no further business to come before the meeting, R. Oswalt moved to adjourn. B. Watkins seconded the motion and there was a unanimous affirmative voice vote. The meeting was adjourned at 10:05 pm. Respectfully submitted: Date: !~~ Sharon Lea Adinol i, roject Assistant KIB Engineering/Facilities Dept. Sr o ~~% /7~r.~~~~ Date: ~/ - .? ~- .~ 00' 7 Scott Arndt, Chair ArchitecturaUEngineering Review Board