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2005-11-08 Regular Meeting fB)fE (G fE ~ WI ~~ Ul1 DEe 1 2005 IW KODIAK ISLAND BOROUGH BOROUGH CLERK'S OFf P RKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE ULAR MEETING-NOVEMBER 8, 2005 MINUTES CALL TO ORDER The regular meeting of the Parks & Recreation Committee was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by CHAIR FOREMAN on November 8, 2005 in the Borough Conference Room. ROLL CALL Committee Members Present Absent Excused Others Present Hans Tschersich X Mary Ogle Heather Turner X Community Development Jeff Huntley X Kevin Foster X Mike Sirofchuck X Murphy Forner X Pam Foreman-Chair X Patrick Saltonstall X VACANT Wayne Biessel X Ian Fulp X Betty Odell X A quorum was established. APPROVAL OF AGENDA COMMITTEE MEMBER SIROFCHUCK MOVED TO APPROVE the agenda as presented. The motion was SECONDED by COMMITTEE MEMBER HUNTLEY, and was CARRIED 6-0. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING COMMITTEE MEMBER FOSTER MOVED TO APPROVE the minutes as presented. The motion was SECONDED by COMMITTEE MEMBER SIROFCHUCK, and it CARRIED 6-0. AUDIENCE COMMENTS AND APPEARANCE REQUESTS There were no audience comments or appearance requests. OLD BUSINESS A. Parks Ordinance Ogle stated she is now calling it Recreational Amenities. She presented a scenario where a developer comes in for new subdivisions. He would have the option of either leaving open space, put in a pocket park with amenities, or put in a sidewalk and/or trail. Sidewalks would follow the right of way and trails would not. Because Parks & Recreation Minutes Page 1 of 4 November 8, 2005 j this language is going to be in subdivision ordinance they can ask for a waiver, so there will always be an out. There are different ways to facilitate the intent, one is to leave it broad or conceptual, and another is to quantify it. If it's left to negotiation we might get a better product than if it was quantified. The pitfall to negotiation could be it's not as legally strong as if it were quantified, and through the developers standpoint the developers can negotiate until it becomes quite intensive because there is no criteria. Sometimes, developers like a certain level of predictability. With quantified numbers it is all spelled out with not much flexibility. Ogle would like the committee to think about this. Discussion on the different approaches to gain more pocket parks or green space. COMMITTEE MEMBER SIROFCHUCK suggested having a joint work session with the Planning & Zoning Commission to discuss this issue. It was the general consensus of the committee that they review the ordinance, and at the November 29th meeting the committee will indicate if they want to go quantified or conceptual. On December 14th they would like to join the Planning & Zoning work session to discuss their ideas with the commission. Ogle suggested the commission think about what they want as far as what they mean by "Open Space." B OtmeloilNorth Star C. Borough Parks Facilitation Recommendations D. Rivers, Trails, and Conservation Assistance Program Ogle stated she's completed the letter to Lisa Holzaphel requesting their assistance on the grant. Ogle will have a phone conversation with Holzaphel on Thursday to get more information and to find out what RTCA's position is going to be with implementing this grant. Discussion on the locations of different trails, the accuracy of easements, and are the easements patented. E. Trail Ownership Inventory Ogle stated in GIS there aren't any parcel lines in the Borough, there is property owner information, but no parcel lines. She showed the committee Ian Moore's data and they discussed the information shown. After discussing the matter, the committee feels it is critical to save the 17B easement trails. F. DNR Recreation Trail Grant Application Ogle reported she met with Wayne last week to discuss the grant that is due December 1 st. Fort Abercrombie applied for a similar grant a few years ago, so she cut and pasted a lot of the information, but it isn't completed yet. A brief discussion regarding the grant, who will administer the project, and what they expect to be accomplished. They also discussed having trail signs unique to Kodiak. Parks & Recreation Minutes Page 2 of 4 November 8, 2005 i Ogle will take a letter of recommendation for public support to the P&Z on November 16th, and then she will bring a letter of recommendation to the P&R on November 29th. COMMITTEE MEMBER SIROFCHUCK MOVED to authorize Pam Foreman to sign a letter of support on behalf of the Parks & Recreation Committee to support the recreation trails grant. COMMITTEE MEMBER PATRICK SALTONSTALL SECONDED the motion, and it CARRIED 6-0. NEW BUSINESS COMMUNICATIONS REPORTS A. Meeting Schedule: November 29,2005 P&R meeting at 7:00 p.m. in the KIB conference room. December 13,2005 P&R meeting at 7:00 p.m. in the KIB conference room. December 14, 2005 P&R will join the Planning & Zoning packet review at 7:30 pm in the KIB conference room. AUDIENCE COMMENTS There were no audience comments. COMMITTEE MEMBERS' COMMENTS Mary Ogle confirmed she is taking a letter regarding the 17B easement, as well as a CLG. She also reported Cogan, Owens Cogan was chosen as the consultant for the Comprehensive Plan. Pam Foreman inquired if Ogle would like some of the P&R members to attend the December 1 st Assembly meeting to support the 17B easement issue. Heather Turner commented she will probably be leaving the committee in December due to she will be a new mother the end of January. Jeff Huntley said he found his pictures of a skateboard park taken in Washington. Wayne Biessel reported the State Parks will be looking at other options for revenues for user fees in their state parks. Kodiak is one of the last places that doesn't have a day use fee program. State Parks will be soliciting for written comments from agencies and organizations It may be incentive for people to come to the scoping meeting that is on December 5th or 6th,. Another issue is public use cabins in local parks. Mike Sirofchuck said the pilings are in and the beginning framework started for the duck/bird viewing blind at Potato Patch Lake. It is within walking distance of the schools in town and the ferry terminal. Kevin Foster said he received a letter from the Borough telling him his term is due in December. Patrick Saltonstall stated that Pam Foreman will be missed. Parks & Recreation Minutes Page 3 of 4 November 8, 2005 Pam Foreman reminded the committee their assignment for the November 29th meeting is to review the parks plan, to be ready to discuss it, and finalize it. We are meeting on December 13th and 14th. She also inquired ifthere are projects they are working on that they should work on together with other committees that are working on similar projects. Heather Turner stated that each entity needs to brainstorm ahead of time and let us know what some of their projects are to allow for research. Pam Foreman stated the P&R Committee will be inviting City Parks & Recreation, Gateway Team, State Parks Advisory Board, U.S. Coast Guard, the Refuge Land folks, Tony Drabek, the Natives of Kodiak, the Audubon Society, Fish & Game Sports Fishing and Game Divisions. Kevin Foster and Jeff Huntley will not be able to attend the November 29th meeting. Pam Foreman told the committee if they have comments on the issues to make sure to get them to Mary. ADJOURNMENT CHAIR FOREMAN requested a motion to adjourn. COMMITTEE MEMBER FOSTER MOVED TO ADJOURN the regular meeting. The motion was SECONDED by COMMITTEE MEMBER SAL TONST ALL. The meeting adjourned at 8:30 p.m. KODIAK ISLAND BOROUGH PARKS & RECREATION COMMITTEE B~~ Pam Fore n, C lr ATTEST By: Q\I~ c9n~ Sheila Smith, Secretary Community Development Department DATE APPROVED: December 13,2005 Parks & Recreation Minutes Page 4 of 4 November 8, 2005