2003-01-21 Regular Meeting
Fire Protection District No. 1
Regular Meeting Minutes
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21 January 2003 at 7:30 p.m.
Bayside Fire Hall
BOROUGH CLERK'S OFFICE
1. Call to Order
Chairperson Scott Arndt called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.
2. Roll Call
Board Members present were Roy Aguirre, Scott Arndt, Cliff
Davidson and Greg Spalinger.
Board Member absent was Jeff Halcomb. A quorum was established.
Others present were Bob Himes, Assistant Fire Chief, Doug
Mathers, Stan Thompson, Dick Carstens and Sharon Lea Adinolfi
[ElF Department] .
3. Approval of Agenda
The Agenda was presented for approval.
Agenda be accepted. The Motion was
unanimously passed.
Greg moved
seconded by
that
Roy
the
and
4. Visitor Conunents
None
5. Approval of Minutes
Greg moved that the Minutes be approved. Roy seconded the
Motion. Discussion: The Chair requested that on page 3, 2nd
paragraph under 7., the word "and" be placed between "Master
Stream" and "battery operated...". There was a unanimous voice
vote to approve the Minutes as amended.
6. Financial Report
Cliff moved that
acknowledged. Greg
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receipt
seconded
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of
the
the Financial Report be
Motion. Discussion: Cliff
questioned the process of forming a budget.
as to the process and the receipt of the
acknowledged by a unanimous voice vote.
The Chair responded
Financial Report was
7. Public Hearings
None.
8. Old Business
A. Addition. The Chair advised that
draftsman] to have the information on the
Station ready by the end of January.
he was pushing [the
addi tion to the Fire
[Note: Jeff Halcomb arrived at 7:50pm]
B. Training Site. The Chair said that he had put out for bid
the work required to have a survey done on the site. St. Denny
Surveying, Inc. and Horizon Land Surveying responded to the
request. St. Denny bid $1070.00 and Horizon bid $600.00. The
bids were based on only the building site, but the Chair
indicated that he had suggested to each of the bidders that a
more comprehensive survey might be required at a later date.
Cliff D. questioned why that would be needed and the Chair said
that at some point consideration would be given to adding on to
both the side and rear of the existing building. Also, that the
additional surveying information would be helpful when
resurfacing, sidewalks, etc. are done. If the additional
surveying were to be done while the surveyors were already set
up for the site survey, the cost would be less. Cliff
questioned the Chair as to both bidding parties having the same
information, i. e., there could be more work involved than the
ini tial site work quoted upon. The Chair said that he had
advised both bidding parties. Cliff made a Motion to approve a
surveying contract in an amount not to exceed $1500.00 and to
include [in the Motion] Horizon as the awarded bidder. Greg
seconded the Motion. Discussion: Greg questioned the
timeframe. The Chair said that a Purchase Order needs to be
submi tted and that once that is in place, Horizon will begin
immediately. Ideally, mid-February the project could begin.
Discussion continued re steps to be taken after survey work is
done. The Chair indicated that items would be placed on the
map. There is already approval in place for the burn unit.
There may be a need for approval for the Flashover Simulator and
the agility course. The Chair will check with the Borough on
requirements.
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The Motion to accept Horizon as the surveying contractor and to
award a contract for an amount not to exceed $1500.00, already
made and seconded, was voted on by an affirmative unanimous
voice vote.
c. Flashover Trailer. The Chair read a letter from Chief
Nault dated 12/4/02 [attached] and a second letter, again from
Chief Nault, dated 12/19/02 [attached] re the Flashover Trailer.
The Chair indicated that both Dave Conrad and Dale Rice had
shown interest in the Flashover Simulator and that Dave Conrad
was interested in seeing a presentation.
The discussion continued covering the need for a Use Agreement
if there were to be a collaboration between the City and
Bayside, the cost of the unitlfreightlwheels, location, etc.
Cliff suggested that a letter should go out to Chief Nault
putting forth Bayside I s position, in detail. The Chair agreed
and stated that if dollars were to be spent, there would need to
be a Use Agreement in place. The Chair also stated that
development of the adjacent lot for training and for a future
permanent burn structure needs to begin. Greg questioned if the
Chair would write the letter to Chief Nault. The Chair
indicated he would like to work with Jeff on the letter. There
were suggestions that the letter go to the City with copies to
Womens Bay, the City Manager and Borough Manager. Jeff
suggested inviting these various interested parties to a work
session meeting.
Cliff spoke of
Simulator fit
Bayside, as a
bids went out
training or a
the "ultimate goal"
into that goal he
possible "co-owner" was
on this particular unit
"grandiose complex".
and how this Flashover
also was concerned that
not considered before the
- he questioned immediate
Doug stated that this could be an interim measure - a stepping
stone toward the ultimate goal. He went over plans for the
training site development and saw the Flashover Unit being both
an interim measure and also something that could be incorporated
into the permanent structure.
Jeff expressed concern re spending money on something that has
not been a part of the original planning.
Doug responded that the site could be developed around the Unit
and it would be a good thing to have in the meantime.
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Assistant Chief Himes said that the site needs to be developed
and that is where the concentration should be placed.
Roy said that he was not interested in the wheels and if we are
going to acquire a Flashover Unit, perhaps Bayside and Womens
Bay could go in together.
Cliff said that the idea of sending the letter [to Chief Nault]
was a good one and also would like to see movement forward on
developing the site. He didn't think we needed to spend money
at this time, but would defer to the Association.
Stan spoke about the restrictive costs of burn buildings
almost prohibitive so that the real appeal of this unit is
that a foundation is not required, minimal water needed to
extinguish, no runoff, and it is a turnkey operation and modules
can be added to it. He expressed concern over the possibili ty
of "control" being an issue with regards to the "wheels" and
that he would prefer a 50/50 split and not a 60/40 arrangement.
Cliff spoke again emphasizing his concern for the focus
training ASAP. Discussion went on regarding fencing,
main building, volunteer labor, and timeframe.
to be on
burm, a
The Chair asked for direction from the group - the consensus was
that a letter go out to Chief Nault [copies to Womens Bay and
Managers at City and Borough] putting forth position on the
purchase/ownership/liability, etc. of the Flashover Simulator.
D. Hose/Foam Purchase. Quotes were received from 4
different vendors for the purchase of foam and hose. W. S.
Darley was low bidder with L.N. Curtis & Sons second. Cliff
asked if the quality of the items from both companies were
comparable. Assistant Chief Himes indicated that they were
comparable products and that his personal recommendation would
be Curtis. He said that he had used this vendor in the past and
found them very responsive provided exceptional customer
service. Jeff made a motion to award the purchase to L. N.
Curtis & Sons wi th a second by Cliff. Discussion: Cliff said
that if Curtis has been a good vendor in the past he doesn't see
a reason to go with someone new for a $400 difference in price.
Scott recommended that Darley be given the go ahead; they are
low bidder, it would be easier to get it through the approval
process, and if the quality is the same, the award should go to
the low bidder.
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A voice vote was taken on the motion to award the bid to L.N.
Curtis & son and failed by 3 to 2. Greg moved to accept the
Darley bid in a not to exceed amount of $10,244. His motion was
seconded by Roy. There was an affirmative unanimous voice vote.
E. Dumpsters. It was noted that Bud Cassidy, Kodiak
Island Borough, has agreed to have the dumpsters in the FD's lot
moved across the road. This should be accomplished during the
Spring.
9. Chief's Report
Assistant Chief Himes reported that a new recruit class was
beginning. There are 3 participants. The EMT classes are
continuing with 4 participants. There are now 32 volunteers.
Assistant Chief
fire at Beaver
Safeway.
Himes said there had been 3 recent calls,
Lake, C&F auto and a structure fire
a car
behind
There will be a Super Bowl party on the
provide the hamburgers, hot dogs, sodas
bring other foods. It was noted that
purchased a new grill. Greg questioned
wheels.
26th. The FFA will
and the guests will
the Volunteers have
if the new grill had
Assistant Chief Himes
from 31 January until
Association meeting.
indicated that he would be out of town
4 February, a t tending an American Hear t
Assistant Chief Himes continued on to report that the pickup had
to have its exhaust system tied up, the door was broken and it
is leaking fluid. He suggested that it needs to be replaced.
Assistant Chief Himes ended his report by saying the enhanced
911 service is being worked on by the MIS Departments at both
the Borough and the City.
10. Bayside FFA President's Report
Doug began his report by giving a financial report, indicating
that as of 6 January 2003 there was a balance on hand of
$142,500.
He continued expressing
slowness of the process
discussion regarding the
the
for
lot
members' frustration with the
the addi tion. There was a brief
plans and Doug was requested to
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assist the Board and Assistant Chief Himes with the lot plans
and similar use permits.
Doug reported that the Association got a software program,
Station Manager Fire Program, for Assistant Chief Himes, dealing
with training, maintenance, inventory, logs, EMS reporting.
Doug told the Board that the Association reelected all of the
same officers.
11. Chair's Report
The Chair, through the consensus of the Board, chose Monday, 10
February 2003 at 7:30p, as the next date for a work session. At
that meeting a date for the next regular meeting will be
selected. The Chair indicated he would like to schedule a
public hearing on the new budget around the end of March.
12. New Business
A. Tee Shirts. Assistant Chief Himes presented pricing on
tee shirts received from Royall T's Graphics. The Chair
indicated that a 2nd quote is required and that perhaps Carl
Royall could give direction as to a catalogue to use for
pricing. Assistant Chief Himes said he would be going to
Anchorage and would look for pricing there. Jeff suggested a
catalogue called "Galls". The Chair said this issue could be
brought up at the next work session.
B. Officers' Coats. A price on officers' coats was given at
$220.00 each. Again, a 2nd quote is needed and Assistant Chief
Himes will get that information. The coat pricing will be
revisited at the next work session.
C. Vehicle Maintenance.
work session.
This item was referred to the next
D. Election of Officers. The offices of Chairman and Vice
Chairman were open. Greg nominated Scott and Cliff made a
motion to close the nominations, to which there was unanimous
voice consent.
Roy nominated Greg for Vice Chairman and Greg refused the
nomination. Roy nominated Jeff and Cliff made a motion to close
the nominations. Greg seconded the motion and the motion was
carried unanimously by voice vote.
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12. visitor's Comments
Stan said that he was pleased to see some progress in plans and
would like to encourage the Board to "stay active".
13. Board Conunents
Cliff expressed his concern over the poor shape of the pickup.
The Chair advised that there are plans to purchase a new pickup
truck.
Jeff expressed his concern regarding the amount of money being
spent on software and questioned the budgeting for it. Doug
interj ected that the FFA could buy the software and the Fire
Protection Area could hire a person to do the input - maybe a
volunteer would be able to do the work. Assistant Chief Himes
was asked to seek out a volunteer willing to do the computer
work and get an estimate of the cost for the work.
Adjourmnent. Jeff moved that the meeting be adjourned. Greg
seconded the motion. There was a unanimous affirmative voice
vote and, there being no further business before the Board, and
already having established a date and time for the next work
session, 10 February 2003 at 7: 30 pm at Bayside Fire Hall, the
meeting was adjourned at 9:38pm.
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Scott Arndt, Chair
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