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1989-05-12 Regular MeetingKodiak Emergency Services Council May 12, 1989 Kodiak, Alaska EXXON VALDEZ OIL SPILL RICHARD FORD (COAST GUARD): Overflights today. Still cleanup in Shuyak. New mousse and sheen in Shuyak Straits area. Passed it on for action. Continuing reports of oil mousse and sheen in Raspberry Straits area. Sheen on Kukak Bay. Cape Chiniak has extensive cleanup. Requested all terrain vehicles. Still a problem with getting additional plastic bags and off-loading stuff. Overflight also saw sheen in Quality(?) Bay area, Uyak, and Uganik. Small cleanup crew near Larsen Bay --wasn't extensive, about 100 yards x 1 foot wide. BOB BRODIE (CITY OF KODIAK MAYOR): Where is Navy skimmer? FORD: In Shuyak waiting to be off-loaded. Another skimmer has been promised that should be here some time Sunday. DISCUSSION ON BLADDERS ON SKIMMERS. BRODIE: Any thought to moving it to Raspberry? FORD: I thought of Shuyak. JEROME SELBY (KIB MAYOR): My thought would be to get bladders on it and keep it sucking. If the bladders are here, let's get them out there and load them up. BRODIE: Is there any provision for the suckers to deliver to Kodiak instead of running to Seward? FORD: We need to set down with Exxon. The people are complaining there is no place to put it. JAY WELLS (NATIONAL PARKS): The problems the beach cleanup crew is having is running out of supplies and having no place to put it. FORD: We have a skimmer in Kodiak that doesn't skim well but it could be used as a storage vessel. I want to discuss with Exxon the disposal provision. Kodiak Emergency Services Council - May 12, 1989 Page 1 03854 SELBY: Where is Mr. Clean III? JOE OCKEN (USCG): Listed on vessel reports that it is in Kodiak for repairs. SELBY: What about skimmers in Seward? FORD: One has been promised and should be here this weekend. It will be towed here --a Mark 5. OCKEN: Another super sucker has been loaded in Seward and is suppose to be coming here. We have a number of pickup vehicles that are here. BRODIE: We need to figure out some way to load them on the scene so it won't be running back and forth. SELBY: Did they move the Corps dredge to Raspberry or is it still in Uyak? OCKEN: It is in Uyak picking up oil. FORD: The sightings in Raspberry are small and if we can use the dredge there, we have to have fishing vessels to go up and corral it. It would be better to give small skimmers. BRODIE: What about seiners with boom in Raspberry area? OCKEN: I thought it was under copyright law. SELBY: I thought they were going to deploy something this morning. BRODIE: We need to work on storage problem. BILL LEHR: All cleanup vessels assigned to our cause are in Chiniak area. There is plenty of work there for them to do. Seems responsible and prudent to do this. The first team maxed out on storage capacity in two days. In good weather, the next team could max out in storage. Our logistics are starting to crop up --props, etc. Maybe a dedicated supply run is needed. SELBY: How many cutters? FORD: One in Seward, Yocona should be here this weekend, and the Storis was also getting underway to come here. SELBY: Could they serve as motherships which supply vessels? OCKEN: Could be a problem if they got blocked some place. SELBY: I was thinking of them taking supplies to motherships. The cutters have been used as main supply vessels and it worked well. OCKEN: Yes. FORD: A lot of stuff needs delivery such as spark plugs. Kodiak Emergency Services Council - May 12, 1989 Page 2 03855 DISCUSSION ON SUPPLYING VESSELS. SELBY: Who is doing it? LEHR: Exxon through their representative Veco. WELLS: Many of the things the boats are asking for contribute to safety of crew. The superintendent did give verbal permission to use four -wheelers. BELLINGER: Logistics problems getting helicopter fuel on down the Pennisula and doing resource inventories. We are getting good cooperation from Exxon expeditors. SELBY to BELLINGER: Can the otter trainer go to Port Lions and Ouzinkie to train people there. Maybe we ought to start looking there. FORD: We went down to Larsen Bay. We didn't find floating oil but saw one beach that was being cleaned up. Some observation up coast to Raspberry and saw one reasonable size being cleaned up. Some computer software is coming in that the different agencies can put input in. Introduced Jay Rogsteen. JAY ROGSTEEN: DEC did a fixed wing flight all down west side. Noticed something unusual in Karluk Point. SELBY: There is still mousse and sheen in front of Uganik? LARRY NICHOLSON (DEPT. OF FISH & GAME): Sheen between head of Afognak and over to cape at Danger Bay --just sheen. SELBY: What about Whale Island? NICHOLSON: I don't have anything for that. OCKEN and NICHOLSON: Probability of oil being submerged and overflights are missing it. INTERAGENCIES ARE MEETING AT ONE O'CLOCK ON MONDAY. DICK KUPOTISKI (sp?) (OSP`A): Here on voluntary compliance basis. I will be meeting with Exxon. If you hear anything, call me. We are active in Valdez, Seward, and Homer: BRODIE: We need to figure out how to solve logistic problem. Does anyone have a suggestion? Essentially it's Veco doing phycial moving. OCKEN: They need to make it a high priority. None of these problems are unsolvable. PARKS: We might want them to stay an extra day in port to make sure they get it all. Kodiak Emergency Services Council - May 12, 1989 Page 3 03856 JACK RICKNER WAS CALLED AND HE IS COMING RIGHT UP TO MEETING. HE HAD JUST RETURNED FROM A FLIGHT. DISCUSSION ON SUPPLY OF TOTES. THE PARKS PROBLEM IS DISPOSAL OF THE BAGS AFTER THE OIL IS PICKED UP. ONE OPTION MIGHT BE A LARGE AIRCRAFT. ROTATION OF DRAGGERS WAS DISCUSSED. DECIDED TO PURSUE LARGE AIRCRAFT. BRODIE: We almost had a barge here and then it was deflected to Seward because we didn't need it. What about getting it back since we now need it. OCKEN: It will not always be liquid oil because more and more we are seeing debris which will be a different type of containment problem. JACK RICKNER (EXXON): On the flight there were streams of mousse in Larsen Bay and Raspberry. Didn't see the dredge. I am going to find out where it is. BRODIE: We have a problem in logistics of getting more bags and things to the cleanup crews and getting the stuff hauled out. SELBY: Is that Exxon or Veco? RICKNER: Exxon. My logistics man is trying to get containers here. I asked John to sign a contract with the Alliance to store the bags and things we are using to cleanup on beaches. National Parks recommends keeping all three teams at Chiniak Point and working there. SELBY: Has DEC given you a disposal site on stuff coming out of Park? Seems to me we need a disposal site. Can you get that to happen? RICKNER: We are working on that problem. Somewhere the containers we ordered have been kidnapped. SELBY to RICKNER: In my view, it's time to send an Exxon plane to Louisiana and fly them to Kodiak. We have lost another day, crews not working, and we still don't know where any containers are. Can we get containers here on their way tomorrow? RICKNER: I can't tell you until I have talked to my people. The boat storage is temporary, and I knew it when I proposed it. SELBY: It seems to me that the other problem is DEC needs to tell us where disposal sites are. Are you having problems with DEC to tell you that? RICKNER: That is being handled in Valdez, and this office is not handling that sort of thing. That takes a lot of agencies for approval. SELBY: The only disposal site is Valdez? RICKNER: I don't know if Exxon has been given approval of where to dispose of the material. Kodiak Emergency Services Council - May 12, 1989 Page 4 03857 BRODIE: Do you plan on bringing it here to store? RICKNER: If we have sealed containers and a way to off-load it, yes. Box cars are full. We have ordered every container we can get our hands on. We have considered everything possible. We have let Valdez know we have had to shut down because we can't stack material an boats. I just don't have any answers for you right now. FORD: This has become very critical. SELBY to RICKNER: Did typar problem on regulation on patent get resolved today? Did you deploy the 8,000' of nets with typar today? I thought we were going to send some to Raspberry Straitsi RICKNER: No, but I have not had an opportunity to discuss what is going on with my office. Your phone call came as I walked in. SELBY: The typar can be used to round -haul it out of coves and keep it off beaches. RICKNER: We have additional material coming. SELBY: The impression we got from John was he was going to get boats out to Raspberry Straits. We even talked about getting typar out that wasn't attached to booms and just drag it through the water. BRODIE: How do we plan on handling totes that are filling up with oil? Is it necessary to send totes to Valdez or can they be pumped off? RICKNER: I can't see any reason why they can't reuse them. BRODIE: SeaLand has big tanks that are used to store waste oil from our boats. SELBY: You may need to look at SeaLand vans. RICKNER: I am concerned about bags breaking and leaking on top of a barge. BRODIE: Whatever, a couple of drips we can live with. Is it quicker to unload skimmer here? RICKNER: By the time it got to Valdez, the oil had solidified. I understand we are suppose to have two. BRODIE: Can we digure out how they are being off-loaded so we can use it in Kodiak and don't lose travel time? RICKNER: Sure, I will check with my counterpart in Homer and see how they are handling that waste. Is there a site Kodiak would approve for us to use as storage if we can find adequate containers? BRODIE: DEC was suppose to approve one. Kodiak Emergency Services Council - May 12, 1989 Page 5 0385S RICKNER: It is better to look at that as a staging area. BRODIE and SELBY: We will find one if that is what it is going to take. SELBY: The problem is the containers --not the site. The other problem is expeditin& supplies. Is it Exxon or Veco? RICKNER: Through Veco. SELBY to RICKNER: We have a problem of little things such as boat parts. Can you make that happen? If you need us to do it, tell us. Either Veco gets the job done or we will find someone who can. RICKNER: If Veco is too blocked, we have option to approach it from another angle. It is that type of information that I am not receiving. SELBY: It seems Veco needs an expeditor to get parts for those machines out. RICKNER: They have to supply vessel but are not a supply ship so don't carry everything. SELBY: Maybe carrying across in helicopter --somebody needs to be the expeditor to make that happen. RICKNER: We need to get information to the right people. BRODIE: We had a question about boat activities. Are all boats fully deployed or do they still have boom on board? RICKNER: The package I sent you this morning was up -dated this morning and shows all locations. We will continue to send that. If you review it and see areas we are missing, let us know because we can tell them to put booms in water. I hope vessels will use their judgement in placing boom if they see there is a major concern. SELBY: When to talk to Veco, one thing you can fix is the boat contract they brought down. It has never been acceptable and they are still trying to use it with the village people. Can you get that out of sight forever. The Chignik one is acceptable. I will have a copy on Monday. RICKNER: Can I get a representative on contracts down here to review it? SELBY: That's fine. We used one the City of Kodiak's attorney wrote and it's fine for Kodiak boats. The villager's has been rejected. I thought we were through playing around with contracts and this keeps coming up. Veco needs to get message from you to put their village contract away. RICKNER: I will get someone down here. SELBY: As far as I know, the one for Kodiak is working but the village's isn't. One of the big problems in Larsen Bay has been the contract and that is where the action is right now. We are looking for a contract that can be used in all of the villages. We understand the one modified for Veco from Chignik is acceptable. Veco refused to give us a copy of it today. Kodiak Emergency Services Council - May I2, 1989 Page 6 03859 FORD: People eating shellfish can call John Whitney (NOAA) at 271-3593. He is in touch with public health. RICKNER: I think Whitney has:been contracted to analyze materials. LEHR: NOAA has a lab in Cold Bay doing sampling. 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