2000-08-07 Regular Meeting „
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
Meeting of
August 7, 2000
MEMBERS PRESENT STAFF PRESENT VISITING ARCHITECT
Gerald Cloudy Alan Verbitsky, PE Tony Yorba, AIA, CEFPI
Gregg Hacker Nancy blabs, Sec.
Jay Johnston
Charlie Jerling
Dale Soughers
Bob Tucker
A discussion was held regarding the Kodiak High School Re-Roofing Project.
Shipping/Receiving building (Area 3)
Voc-Ed building (Area 2)
High School building (Area 1 )
Alan stated we might require three different roof types needing different treatment. I
would rather see us have two done right rather than 3 half ways.
Tuck reminded us the State Regs don't allow area wide capitol improvements on multiple
buildings.
® Next meeting we should have the Preliminary Submittal, Conceptual 3 roof designs, cost
estimate and the pros and cons of each.
Tony said he spoke with Tom Carsons who will write up a plan. A sloped roof would
mean you wouldn't have to deal as much with asbestos, The Preliminary Submittal will
cone after asbestos testing. Initial schedule has no time line; RFP does have a time line.
Time to review drawings and specs, type up review comments and forward them on to
you. Tony stated he would be available to the Borough telephonically for the design
review.
Alan stated there would he cost estimates at 35% boilerplates. 65% boilerplate documents
and complete specifications, and at 95% the complete submittal will be submitted to
review agencies.
Tony stated most products should have been selected by then I would assume at 95% out
for various reviews and cost estimates.
Alan stated every picture on each sheet should have a fair amount of notes.
Gerald asked how iir are we going to go?
® Alan said Mechanical, Plumbing, RVAC, Asbestos Abatement, and basic Structural
Design.
Tuck said a pitched roof would put most mechanical consolidated into one. Discussed
trying to do a pitched root including air-handling unit, chemical fume hoods (different
than exhaust) most arc working. Old skylights need removed.
Greg said there are light bezels bringing some light into the classrooms.
Alan asked if a slope roof would cover up the hole.
Tony said that was one of the options.
Gerald said there are drainage problems and Tony agreed that was a downside with the
same pitch roof. Some sort of a hip would be higher than the other building. I have no
clue on the other one unless; low sloped metal roof of 1/4" per ft structural and
weatherboard like what is on big warehouses. Some people are uncomfortable with low
slope. The Sitka PBY hangars have that roof and work tine. It's just a sheet of 24" steel
coverage, next panel comes up over concealed fastener system, and seams have a factory-
applied clip, which expand and contract with changes in temperature. 2 purlins clips
along same spacing and clips onto 2 X 4, eaves change w/wind direction. Never applied
directly to plywood, but on top of existing membranes, In Cordova there is a I in 12
pitch with Bituthane over old built-up roof 2 X 6 on top half channels load of roof is
distributed.
410 Alan suggested treating these roofs as three separate buildings as the way to go.
Jay said they were not happy with the insulation, it was absolutely saturated.
Tony said if there is asbestos we will have to do a complete tear out. He said he could
see rust underneath on Area 3.
Tuck mentioned that enclosing the center section would mean the Dept. of Education
would count that toward the student population. Over 4000 sq. ft. =4.5 classrooms.
Tony suggested the area could be a library.
Tuck said that if there were windows we wouldn't need sky lights.
Tony said vertical light monitor if slopes are in the right direction.
Gerald said Area 2 has a little chunk that sticks out. If we slope all one way what's the
load factor, winds, doors on both sides.
Alan said 1/4" roof slope would have no snow sliding. Relatively low slope roof with
gutter system. One advantage of a pitched roof, insulation would be easy to do, fail-safe
in case existing system does leak.
Gerald said gutters are a problem would have to raise the other roof.
Jay asked Tony if he would bring a couple of options and Tone said yes, these buildings
are really big.
Alan said we are looking at 20-year roof.
Tuck agreed we would need at least a 20-year roof.
Gerald said the Assembly said a 10-year roof.
Tony said most membrane warranty top at 10-15 years with metal at 20 years for finish,
not fasteners. Warranties are not a great indicator of quality. General contractor requires
dovetail manufacture warranties. Contractor will usually have a 3-year warranty for
repairing leaks as part of the submittal.
Jay asked how much luck we would have w/warranty. Problem was most contractors
bonding companies object to that.
Alan said if you have a good track record you can get longer bonds and a bad contractor
couldn't get a longer bond. Good manufactures stand behind their work
• Gerald asked how much money?
Alan said 1.2 to 2.1 million dollars.
Tuck said 1.4 million bond replacements that is separate from money Alan has for design
services.
Alan said the Bond issue 2.2 million included Peterson.
Tuck said the State knows that this project is 1_4 million.
Alan said we might only be able to do Areas 1 and 2 in order to get the job done right.
Tony said it might be helpful to get HMS cost estimate on different rook.
Metal PBM = $20.75 sq. ft. (non-hazard full assembly/tear off)
Kemper $29.00 sq. fl.
PVC $16.00 sq. ft.
SBS mod. Bituthane 3-ply $16.00 sq. ft.
62,000 sq. ft. for Areas 1, 2, and 3. For example:
Area I with PVC approximately 31,300 sq. ft.
Area 2 Metal approximately 28,400 sq. ft.
Area 3 Metal approximately 10,800 sq. ft.
10 At 1 .313 Million dollars. Excluding hazardous material modification
• Greg brought up the need to add more zones to the fire/sprinkler panel.
Tuck said the mechanical Mire panel is coaxed out and we would have to do something.
Alan said UVC - full sprinkler/fire alarms requirements are separate. The electrical
engineer would know. A dry system is the easiest to take care of.
Tuck said we would have to contract it out.
Gerald said if we peak the roof, we could put sprinklers in the upper area. This would
take most of the money when you figure in a compressor and the whole works. If you
raise the roof, you can come richt straight up to it.
Tony said Area 3 is a slam dunk,
Alan said if we do a 1/4" to a foot slope we won't need sprinklers.
Tuck said we have to be able to get in there to access the area. The pent house in the
middle like the hospital has end up with the roof sloped. For daylight inside have gabled
ends on each side to break up slopes and carry out the slope both ways so all drainage
goes out to the side.
A low slope starting at 1/4" at one end of the roof you would have 40" at the other end
giving a mechanical space.
Greg said we have a problem with slush storms that we will need to account for. In Area
I we have had anywhere from 6-18" of slush on the roof that doesn't flow with a 1/4"
slope. It also eats up fasteners.
Tony asked what scale slope we would need to get the slush to move. This slush
business has thrown me for a loop. Also would need to use concealed stainless steel
fasteners. Boiler stacks will stain a metal roof and can do significant damage from the
sulphur.
Gerald said the USCG has a sloped roofon hangar t.
Alan said it is rolling steel on top of a membrane vapor harrier.
Tony said we will be communicating back and forth and coming up with different
concepts and he vill at least come up with a scope and all consultants with numbers by
Wednesday.
Once we have a figure, the Engineering office will type up a proposal for the Clerk's
office.
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® Architectural Review Board
Minutes
January 31, 2001
I. CALL TO ORDER -
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Gerald Cloudy,Chairperson ol'the
Architectural Review Board, in the conference room of the Kodiak Fisheries Research
Center.
II. ROLL CALL
Members Present Members Absent Staff Present
Gerald Cloudy, member Jerrol Friend, member Alan Verbitsky, PE, KW
Scott Arndt. member Tracy Jilge, Secretary, K.IB
Greg Hacker. member
Jay Johnston, member
Charlie Jerling. member
Toni Abell (Assembly member)
Visitors Present
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A quorum was established.
Chairman Cloudy turned the meeting over to the Kodiak Island Borough Engineering
Director, Alan Verbitsky to discuss the high school re-roof project.
Alan Verbitsky discussed the hiring of RSA Engineer Richard Armstrong to conduct the
roof repair and mechanical condition survey. Mr. Armstrong was the original designer
that originally compromised the ventilation in the building. Prior to the meeting, Alan
distributed the Kodiak High School Roof Repair and Mechanical Condition Survey report
that was generated by Mr, Armstrong.
The meeting was primarily to discuss whether the ARB would authorize Jensen, Yorba,
Lott to design the ventilation system in addition to the current contract. After complete
review of the Roof Repair and Mechanical Condition Survey report, board member Scott
Arndt requested a motion to go ahead with the design of the ventilation of the high school
by Jensen, Yorba, Lou. Board member, Gregg Hacker seconded the motion. The motion
was carried by unanimous voice vote.
It was also unanimous consensus of the ARB to have Tony Yorba be at the next meeting
to present the 65% drawings. Alan advised we would handle the reservations as soon as
possiHe. A change order will be initiated to cover the additional cost of the design or the
ventilation. Alan Verbitsky stated we should be ready to go to bid by end of March.
® ARB MEETING MINUTES
CONTINUED
JANUARY 31, 2001
The meeting adjourned at approximately 9:30 p.m.
Submitted by:
Date:
Tracy G. Jilge, Secretary
Engineering & Facilities
Approved by:
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Date:
Gerald Cloudy_ Chair
Architectural Review Board